![]() ![]() A129/T800: no gun, tested variant with fewer ATMs or rocket options, but with more powerful T800 engines – A129 early : no gun, older optics, 3 hellfires per pilon and not 4 The only way to save this boi i think is maybe adding some unique gimmick like the Horus UAV lounched by the 120 gun (much like the planes with ships) and give the option to spot from above with that (but overall i think a nation can have a good toptier lineup even without an MBT since the vehicles that do better in toptier are the light tanks or the are at least 6 more verants of the AW129 Mangusta (that thing is around since the 70s and has changed a lot through time) The Arietes are solid, but not even near good as the new MBTs. If the HE-MOM would work properly with its anti-missile capability, maybe could return being more appealing The OTOMATIC even if outranged by SAM platforms, its still the only AA capable of defending itself from MBTs effectively even at mid-long range outside the ADATS. The centauro as said is fun and is incredibly competitive. The main issue i see with italian top tier is with CAS, which is not exixstent for Italy above 8.7, since i think the ground part is preatty ok overall. To me the italian heli tree potential is second only to USA and USSR. It’s extremely sad their heli tree got completely forgotten since Italy is one of the more, if not the most, experienced nation in Europe in producing and designing helicopters. From the ground point of view Gaijin did preatty well with italy adding all the differtent variant of the Dardo last year, but for air… they only got a bunch of planes everyone have, the F104. ![]()
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